It is not that you can't make it work, it could even be used to fuel his guilt-trip and selfdoubts even more. How and when was he meant to meet that girl and form a bond with her?Īnd if he really did have a deeper relationship with her, why leave her behind? Did he knew she was pregnant? Why did she abandone the child of her loved one? It seemed he was there for a day, maybe a bit more but not a long time. Vergil was around 17 years old when he went to Fortuna, only to look for clues for Sparda. There would have been a lot of other more interesting solutions they could have used.Īnd while it is nice and absolutely not wrong what Dan is thinking about it - I doubt Capcom as a whole is going to put more thought into it. It's not perfect, but depth is there and things can always improve.Ĭlick to shrink.Well, first of it's just the old thing of pulling a relative out of nowhere. TL DR: Let's not write off DMC's story just yet. If they're willing to listen to a garbage person like Reuben Langdon regarding dialogue, hopefully they will listen to Southworth regarding characterization. It's worth considering Dan Southworth's interpretation of Vergil and his relationship to Nero's mother as well, as is an interesting one: most assume that Vergil just had sex for more power or some dumb reason, but Southworth's interpretation of that whole event is that whoever Nero's mom was, she must have connected with Vergil on a deeper level to make Vergil- a very closed off and traumatized person- open up in a vulnerable way like that and get in touch with his human side. There's hints of that already in Vergil's changed behavior, however slight, following the reveal of Nero as his son.
Or at least, that's where I'd hope they'd go with it. It adds a layer of complexity to Vergil's character and forces him to behave differently from how he normally does and really confront his own shortcomings as a person. Definitely there is plenty of room for improvement, but the foundations of something really interesting are there, really Capcom just needs someone to bring it all together.Īlso don't get the hate for Nero as Vergil's son. The supplemental material also provides some interesting insights into characters as well, I think, and provides more of that depth in more direct way, at least in some instances. So I think that's worth something.ĭMC's story isn't amazing by any means, but I think there is definitely an underlying depth to it that a lot of people miss, and I think to an extent Capcom is aware of that depth. Urizen committed a massacre and brought about much suffering, but V did his best to mitigate that suffering and bring an end to Urizen (even if some of that was also an act of self-preservation). I also think that if we're going to say that Urizen's actions are also Vergil's actions, even partially, we have to say the same about V. That could be the start of something, rather than the beginning and end of it as many are assuming. Upon coming back, he can't un-massacre the people his demon half killed, but he can at least stop further suffering, which he does, albeit after getting some sense knocked into him by his son. I think that ultimately, what we're seeing could just be Part 1 of Vergil's redemption arc (if they choose to go there, totally up in the air if they will or not/if they see this as sufficient). I don't think this is the last we're seeing of Dante and Vergil, or at least Vergil (Dante is a bit more up in air depending on what they do with Langdon, if they do anything at all- hopefully they will that said, I'd prefer Dante be recast rather than written out). But I've never actually seen that as a running descriptor of what DMC5 is, or at least not consistently, and they haven't exactly done a good job of hammering that point home. But until then, I'd say let's wait and see.Īnd before people quote the whole "end of the Son of Sparda saga" thing at me, I've never actually seen that acknowledged in any official descriptions of DMC5 or interviews or anything like that. If DMC6 roles around and there's no deeper exploration into Vergil's character development or actions, then yeah, I think we can say it's unearned.
To me this is like watching "Crossroads of Destiny" or "Day of the Black Sun" from Avatar and declaring that Zuko's redemption arc is unearned. I think it's a little too early to say Vergil's redemption is un-earned because it's unclear if we've seen the whole arc play out. I think the big mistake is assuming that Dante and Vergil's story and their arcs is just going to end with DMC5. I don't know, I don't think the whole issue of Vergil and his redemption or lack thereof is as simple as people are making it out to be.
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